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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish it were here to stay, but I don&#039;t believe it, not yet. The economy trembled, but it didn&#039;t totally fall. People will have to totally stop giving and accepting credit for any real changes to occur. Being a cash nation again may not be as horrible as people think it would be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish it were here to stay, but I don&#8217;t believe it, not yet. The economy trembled, but it didn&#8217;t totally fall. People will have to totally stop giving and accepting credit for any real changes to occur. Being a cash nation again may not be as horrible as people think it would be.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Abigail,

Thanks for chiming in Abigail. You bring up a very important point, and you&#039;re correct, it&#039;s doubtful the advertising industry would allow us to remain frugal forever. 

I&#039;ve always equated advertisers to a spoiled screaming child... *pay attention to me, I need you do to buy me XYZ.*

But what I would like to see is a study on the efficacy of advertising when you saturate every possible niche to place those advertisements. Naturally, the more you experience an external stimulus, the less you pay attention to it. 

For example, when was the last time you (as a blogger) actually read a block of Google Adsense links or sat around a guy who watched the TV commercials between a football game? 

Personally, I don&#039;t even see the ads anymore. I go directly to the web content I&#039;m looking for, flip the channels, or leave the room to do something else. So even though most people are being exposed to the ads, they have little to no effect on a substantial portion of their viewers/readers/listeners.

Forgive my science geek analogy, but I think we&#039;re rather like antibiotic resistant bacteria in this hypothesis. It takes more and more antibiotic (advertising) to kill them off (get our attention) until eventually they evolve total immunity.

That could be why we&#039;re beginning to see new types of TV ads with the rise of DVR. The &quot;pause ads&quot; or the 30 second commercials are good examples of consumer psychologists trying to get our attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Abigail,</p>
<p>Thanks for chiming in Abigail. You bring up a very important point, and you&#8217;re correct, it&#8217;s doubtful the advertising industry would allow us to remain frugal forever. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always equated advertisers to a spoiled screaming child&#8230; *pay attention to me, I need you do to buy me XYZ.*</p>
<p>But what I would like to see is a study on the efficacy of advertising when you saturate every possible niche to place those advertisements. Naturally, the more you experience an external stimulus, the less you pay attention to it. </p>
<p>For example, when was the last time you (as a blogger) actually read a block of Google Adsense links or sat around a guy who watched the TV commercials between a football game? </p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t even see the ads anymore. I go directly to the web content I&#8217;m looking for, flip the channels, or leave the room to do something else. So even though most people are being exposed to the ads, they have little to no effect on a substantial portion of their viewers/readers/listeners.</p>
<p>Forgive my science geek analogy, but I think we&#8217;re rather like antibiotic resistant bacteria in this hypothesis. It takes more and more antibiotic (advertising) to kill them off (get our attention) until eventually they evolve total immunity.</p>
<p>That could be why we&#8217;re beginning to see new types of TV ads with the rise of DVR. The &#8220;pause ads&#8221; or the 30 second commercials are good examples of consumer psychologists trying to get our attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Abigail</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abigail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I don&#039;t buy it. (No pun intended.)

Yeah, the people in the Great Depression lived that way for the rest of their lives. We&#039;re nowhere close to those dire circumstances. 

There really is no way of telling if this frugality will last until we can look at it in hindsight. That said, every time we&#039;ve had a nasty financial problem, the spending righted itself at the same as the economy.

And there is an ever-growing number of new, cooler items that are &quot;must haves&quot; for everyone. The people who lived through the depression tended to isolate themselves (at least my grandparents did) from a lot of technology and conveniences. In doing so, they stayed away from the temptation of most technology.

Today, that&#039;s really not all that possible. There are too many gadgets being invented and upgraded at any given moment. Too many items that can fit in so well with your lifestyle that you hardly even think of them as a luxury.

Generally speaking, if we&#039;re not watching TV, we&#039;re online or have access to the Internet via our phones. That means we spend most of our waking moments looking at ads, reading articles about new technologies, etc. There&#039;s just no way to avoid the materialistic urges that this 24/7 stream of information creates. Well, other than something radical like turning off the TV and leaving the laptop at home. (Then just try to avoid looking up at billboards or in store windows and you should be fine. So long as you don&#039;t listen to the radio ads.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I don&#8217;t buy it. (No pun intended.)</p>
<p>Yeah, the people in the Great Depression lived that way for the rest of their lives. We&#8217;re nowhere close to those dire circumstances. </p>
<p>There really is no way of telling if this frugality will last until we can look at it in hindsight. That said, every time we&#8217;ve had a nasty financial problem, the spending righted itself at the same as the economy.</p>
<p>And there is an ever-growing number of new, cooler items that are &#8220;must haves&#8221; for everyone. The people who lived through the depression tended to isolate themselves (at least my grandparents did) from a lot of technology and conveniences. In doing so, they stayed away from the temptation of most technology.</p>
<p>Today, that&#8217;s really not all that possible. There are too many gadgets being invented and upgraded at any given moment. Too many items that can fit in so well with your lifestyle that you hardly even think of them as a luxury.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, if we&#8217;re not watching TV, we&#8217;re online or have access to the Internet via our phones. That means we spend most of our waking moments looking at ads, reading articles about new technologies, etc. There&#8217;s just no way to avoid the materialistic urges that this 24/7 stream of information creates. Well, other than something radical like turning off the TV and leaving the laptop at home. (Then just try to avoid looking up at billboards or in store windows and you should be fine. So long as you don&#8217;t listen to the radio ads.)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but might not do the Financial Samaria any good since California might not let him buy one! (evil grins)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but might not do the Financial Samaria any good since California might not let him buy one! (evil grins)</p>
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		<title>By: fwisp</title>
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		<dc:creator>fwisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh look they have 52&quot; LCD TVs on sale in BestBuy ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh look they have 52&#8243; LCD TVs on sale in BestBuy ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Matt SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m more the cheap bastard type. 

I was a frugal-ite way before I became a trader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m more the cheap bastard type. </p>
<p>I was a frugal-ite way before I became a trader.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt - As a trader, aren&#039;t you a finance as well?

Time to BINGE spend everyone!  It&#039;s good for you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt &#8211; As a trader, aren&#8217;t you a finance as well?</p>
<p>Time to BINGE spend everyone!  It&#8217;s good for you!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, just when I turn a little positive and think we&#039;ve finally learned our lesson... I get a smackdown! (said facetiously of course)

I think there will be a few converts, but do concede that the temptation and constant stimuli to get Americans back to living beyond their means will win out. 

Thanks for the comments gents!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, just when I turn a little positive and think we&#8217;ve finally learned our lesson&#8230; I get a smackdown! (said facetiously of course)</p>
<p>I think there will be a few converts, but do concede that the temptation and constant stimuli to get Americans back to living beyond their means will win out. </p>
<p>Thanks for the comments gents!</p>
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		<title>By: Thanks for the Money Links!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thanks for the Money Links!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] New Frugality Appears to be More than Just a Fad [...]</description>
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		<title>By: fwisp</title>
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		<dc:creator>fwisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem lies in our human nature: we naturally want things, nice shiny things. So as long as there are options to get those things (credit cards) we will have to fight with ourselves every second of the day because there are so many temptations everywhere you turn...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem lies in our human nature: we naturally want things, nice shiny things. So as long as there are options to get those things (credit cards) we will have to fight with ourselves every second of the day because there are so many temptations everywhere you turn&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, I&#039;m with the Financial Samurai on this one. As soon as unemployment stabilizes and starts to retreat back to a normal level, Americans will soon go back to their old spending habits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I&#8217;m with the Financial Samurai on this one. As soon as unemployment stabilizes and starts to retreat back to a normal level, Americans will soon go back to their old spending habits.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but you&#039;re a finance guy... you&#039;re supposed to be buying that stuff for the good of the economy! ; )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but you&#8217;re a finance guy&#8230; you&#8217;re supposed to be buying that stuff for the good of the economy! ; )</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was pretty hurt by the recession, and I&#039;m still thinking about buying $10,000+ watches, and a new Land Rover 4 that&#039;s around $60,000!  The recession hasn&#039;t changed my THOUGHTS, although it may have changed my actions.

That said, once bonuses hit this year, and they should be up a lot (as u know with GS paying $600-700k/employee), most people will probably freely spend.

You take the survey of spending 1 month before you know your bonus leads to VERY different results 1 month after getting your bonus!

FS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was pretty hurt by the recession, and I&#8217;m still thinking about buying $10,000+ watches, and a new Land Rover 4 that&#8217;s around $60,000!  The recession hasn&#8217;t changed my THOUGHTS, although it may have changed my actions.</p>
<p>That said, once bonuses hit this year, and they should be up a lot (as u know with GS paying $600-700k/employee), most people will probably freely spend.</p>
<p>You take the survey of spending 1 month before you know your bonus leads to VERY different results 1 month after getting your bonus!</p>
<p>FS</p>
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		<title>By: Matt SF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt SF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno man. I&#039;m thinking frugality, or at least an alteration in spending for value versus spending just for spending, will stick to those who were hurt by the recession.

Of course, it&#039;s a pretty unlikely prediction to make considering that most people seem to have a very short memory and we live in a world where advertisements inundate our life 24-7. Then again, once they see how quickly the savings can add up after just a few months, they may like the peace of mind instead of getting a new iPhone every 2 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno man. I&#8217;m thinking frugality, or at least an alteration in spending for value versus spending just for spending, will stick to those who were hurt by the recession.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s a pretty unlikely prediction to make considering that most people seem to have a very short memory and we live in a world where advertisements inundate our life 24-7. Then again, once they see how quickly the savings can add up after just a few months, they may like the peace of mind instead of getting a new iPhone every 2 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Samurai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Financial Samurai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt - I REALLY don&#039;t believe frugality will stick at all!

We are Americans, and will binge spend 4 life!  It&#039;s just the way we are.  The American way will always live on in America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt &#8211; I REALLY don&#8217;t believe frugality will stick at all!</p>
<p>We are Americans, and will binge spend 4 life!  It&#8217;s just the way we are.  The American way will always live on in America.</p>
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