The debate over choosing actively managed mutual funds versus passively managed funds (via index funds) is nothing new, and in all likelihood, will keep on going for hundreds of years.
While some will say it is entirely possible to outperform the market, index fund proponents will argue that it’s impossible to do so over a long period of time. They will also point out that the amount of money you will save by paying lower expense ratios will make up for itself in the long run, even if a mutual fund might outperform the major indices from time to time.
However, if you could get an actively managed mutual fund for free… would you take the chance?
Most people may not be aware of it, but there are a few individual companies that are essentially nothing more than an actively managed mutual fund. The best part is you will never pay another management fee again.
Just to be clear, it should be noted that these are individual stocks, and they will not provide anywhere near the capital protection offered by a diversified mutual fund or a generic index fund. Meaning that if one of these companies takes a hit after missing an earnings estimate, they could fall 10 to 20 percent overnight. Index funds aren’t nearly as volatile, so you’re definitely get some capital protection for paying the expense ratio in this respect.
However, for the investor who holds a rank slightly above that of an amateur and wishes to take a more active role in researching their own investments, companies such as these could be a decent place to begin your journey.
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Disclosure: I hold no position in any of these companies at the time of publishing other than through a basic Vanguard index fund.
Nice way of looking at it…. GE and JNJ are good picks. Probably the only ones I’d consider in that group. They’re quite diversified globally as well, in many different markets. So they’re less wholly victim to what happens in the U.S.
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Matt Reply:
July 31st, 2009 at 12:16 am
Yeah JNJ is probably my favorite of the group since they focus solely on health care. That’s been a great sector over the last decade or two, and being so diversified, it’s just a cheap way of playing the health care sector in general.
Goldman is probably a close second just because I cheer for the villains in movies and everyone seems to hate them now. If they’re so great at making bubbles form in the first place, I think I’d rather join them then try to fight against them.
As for the rest, I think they’re all solid choices but it depends on whatever “ice cream flavor” you prefer. Old reliable industrials, financial risk assessors, or jolly ol’ Buffett… plenty to choose from.
Thanks for the comment!
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The only one of that bunch I would consider an actively managed fund is BRK. I think it can be argued that any kind of insurance company is an actively managed fund; after all, that’s how they mainly make their money (investing the float). GE and JNJ are conglomerates, GE moreso—actually JNJ is just a big health product company…like “health staples”, but they do not trade in and out of companies; they own them outright—like GE owns NBC (the TV network). Blackrock is financial services company, GS is an investment bank (or is it a real bank now?); they make their money on fees and prop trading. Other conglomerates to consider is Tyco, Procter&Gamble, 3M, … Oh yeah, check out Leucadia … Berkshire’s unknown sibling.
Disclaimer: I own shares in GE. None of the others.
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10:53 pm
Interesting point-of-reference. It makes sense I suppose.
I am not in the market for a whole lot of investing right now considering I am wholly focused on spanking my debt. In year, hopefully less depending on the growth of my side hustle income, I will be ready to start dabbling more in investments.
I would tend to lean heavily toward index funds, but would be willing to try out a small stake in a few of the individuals you mentioned above.
Do you personally know of anyone currently approaching their investing from this standpoint?
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Matt Reply:
July 30th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Repaying debt over investing is generally a good way to go, as long as you’re getting those retirement accounts filled up (which I’m 99.9% sure you are).
I personally know two guys who made Berkshire one of only five stocks they ever bought back in the mid 90s. They’ve done pretty well since then.
I believe Pinyo at Moolanomy has a few Berkshire Class B shares under his belt.
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